Re: [icnrg] New Version Notification for draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-requirements-01.txt

Dirk Kutscher <Dirk.Kutscher@neclab.eu> Tue, 03 May 2016 16:17 UTC

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From: Dirk Kutscher <Dirk.Kutscher@neclab.eu>
To: "Rahman, Akbar" <Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com>, Ravi Ravindran <ravi.ravindran@huawei.com>, "icnrg@irtf.org" <icnrg@irtf.org>
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Hi Akbar and all,

Thanks for looking into it.

All, the purpose of RG documents is that they address topics that are of sufficiently broad interest that warrants allocating meeting air time and reviewing cycles in the future.

So far, we have not seen that interest in the group. 

Let's try to clarify that and see how we can move on the document. Can people (who are not in the set of draft authors) express their views on how to move on with this? If you have other comments on the draft and/or the topic of IoT, please speak up as well.

Thanks,
Chairs


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rahman, Akbar [mailto:Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com]
> Sent: Montag, 25. April 2016 22:05
> To: Dirk Kutscher; Ravi Ravindran; icnrg@irtf.org
> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-requirements-
> 01.txt
> 
> Hi Dirk/Ravi,
> 
> 
> I read the update and was satisfied that my comments were addressed.  I
> support adopting it as an RG document.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Akbar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: icnrg [mailto:icnrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Dirk Kutscher
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 4:39 AM
> To: Ravi Ravindran <ravi.ravindran@huawei.com>; icnrg@irtf.org
> Subject: Re: [icnrg] New Version Notification for draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-
> requirements-01.txt
> 
> Thanks, Ravi.
> 
> We talked about adopting this one as an RG document.
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-requirements-01
> 
> Can we get some opinions from people who have read it (and that are not in the
> authors group)?
> 
> We would like to understand whether people think that this is in a mature
> enough state and whether it's sufficiently comprehensive to be adopted as an
> RG document and moved towards Informational RFC publication later.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dirk
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: icnrg [mailto:icnrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Ravi
> > Ravindran
> > Sent: Samstag, 23. April 2016 02:05
> > To: icnrg@irtf.org
> > Subject: [icnrg] New Version Notification for
> > draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot- requirements-01.txt
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Based on the comments from the mailing list we have updated the
> > ICN-IoT requirements draft.
> >
> > Following are the updates to the draft:
> >
> > 1. Sections 2.10&5.6 have been updated based on Yuansong's
> > contributions and references.
> >
> > 2. Sections 3.2&2.9 have been updated to address Akbar's comments.
> >
> > 3. A new Section 2.13 on IoT platform management challenge has been
> > added, and Sections 2.3,5.7&6.3 have been updated to address Thomas's
> comments.
> >
> > 4. Sections 2.5&6.4 have been updated to address Bastiaan's comments.
> >
> > More comments are welcome for improving this contribution.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ravi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
> > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 4:59 PM
> > To: Dipankar Raychadhuri; Yanyong Zhang; Emmanuel Baccelli; Jeff
> > Burke; Ravi Ravindran; GQ Wang; Olov Schelen; Bengt Ahlgren; Luigi
> > Alfredo Grieco
> > Subject: New Version Notification for
> > draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-requirements-
> > 01.txt
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-requirements-01.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Ravishankar Ravindran and posted to
> > the IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:         draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-requirements
> > Revision:     01
> > Title:                Requirements and Challenges for IoT over ICN
> > Document date:        2016-04-22
> > Group:                Individual Submission
> > Pages:                39
> > URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-
> > requirements-01.txt
> > Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-
> > requirements/
> > Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-
> requirements-
> > 01
> > Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-zhang-icnrg-icniot-
> > requirements-01
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    The Internet of Things (IoT) promises to connect billions of objects
> >    to the Internet.  After deploying many stand-alone IoT systems in
> >    different domains, the current trend is to develop a common, "thin
> >    waist" of protocols forming a horizontal unified, defragmented IoT
> >    platform.  Such a platform will make objects accessible to
> >    applications across organizations and domains.  Towards this goal,
> >    quite a few proposals have been made to build a unified host-centric
> >    IoT platform as an overlay on top of today's host-centric Internet.
> >    However, there is a fundamental mismatch between the host-centric
> >    nature of todays Internet and the information-centric nature of the
> >    IoT system.  To address this mismatch, we propose to build a common
> >    set of protocols and services, which form an IoT platform, based on
> >    the Information Centric Network (ICN) architecture, which we call
> >    ICN-IoT.  ICN-IoT leverages the salient features of ICN, and thus
> >    provides seamless mobility support, security, scalability, and
> >    efficient content and service delivery.
> >
> >    This draft describes representative IoT requirements and ICN
> >    challenges to realize a unified ICN-IoT framework.  Towards this, we
> >    first identify a list of important requirements which a unified IoT
> >    architecture should have to support tens of billions of objects, then
> >    we discuss how the current IP-IoT overlay fails to meet these
> >    requirements, followed by discussion on suitability of ICN for IoT.
> >
> >    Though we see most of the IoT requirements can be met by ICN, we
> >    discuss specific challenges ICN has to address to satisfy them.  Then
> >    we provide discussion of popular IoT scenarios including the "smart"
> >    home, campus, grid, transportation infrastructure, healthcare,
> >    Education, and Entertainment for completeness, as specific scenarios
> >    requires appropriate design choices and architectural considerations
> >    towards developing an ICN-IoT solution.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
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> >
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