Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-communities-00
Robert Raszuk <raszuk@cisco.com> Sat, 13 November 2010 15:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-communities-00
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Hi John, Before we start the discussion on this one should we first not conclude what is the WG consensus reg draft-decraene-idr-rfc4360-clarification-00 document ? Main purpose for draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-communities-00 is that standard communities where GSHUT is already registered by IANA (0xFFFF0000) do not have a way to limit propagation across AS boundaries. Therefor I think to proceed formally further WG should agree or disagree on the former draft defining how implementations should handle AS transitiveness of extended communities. Many thx, R. > Folks, > > There was a certain lack of clarity during the discussion of > draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-communities-00 at the wg meeting > -- we got sidetracked into a tangential discussion of > draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-02 instead. So instead of simply asking > about wg adoption of the draft, I would like to remind people of the > request the draft makes, and then ask. > > Simply put, the draft asks for the following: > > - to allocate a code point from the registry "BGP Extended > Communities Type - extended, transitive" - to allocate a code point > from the registry "BGP Extended Communities Type - extended, > non-transitive" - to establish a pair of registries for values to be > carried in the data portion of extended communities using > respectively, either of those two code points. > > This seems to Sue and me to be a modest and reasonable request to the > WG. The debate in our limited Q&A time revolved around the related > gshut draft. Much as with other recent drafts, we think the > conversation should be divided into two pieces: > > - mechanics, in this case extended community allocation and registry > establishment. That is what the draft and this message relate to. - > details of related applications. There seems to be a healthy > conversation already taking place related to gshut, within GROW and > in hallway conversations. > > The proposal on the table is that the extended community type codes > be allocated and the requested registry established. If folks have > objections to those specific work items please send them to the list. > If adopted, we're basically done by the way -- there is really no > further work for the WG, just a little for the chairs. > > In closing I will point out that although > draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-communities-00 makes its request > from the Standards Action portion of the two registries, it need not > -- the authors could have requested an FCFS code point instead in > which case this discussion would have been moot. They could still do > this. > > Please send any objections to allocating the type codes and > establishing the registry before November 29. If you do object, > please provide justification for your position. > > Thanks, > > --John and Sue _______________________________________________ Idr > mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >
- [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-commun… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Tony Li
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Pierre Francois
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Eric Rosen
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Eric Rosen
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… Jie Dong
- Re: [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-reserved-extended-co… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-reserved-extended-communities bruno.decraene