Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP' to BCP (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt)
Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Mon, 10 October 2011 18:59 UTC
Return-Path: <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7590221F8BFB; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -103.299
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B-AlpmUklbsz; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74CC21F8BDE; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by iaby26 with SMTP id y26so9494525iab.31 for <multiple recipients>; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5UYsIdqXLU1fiqgimBrQUnbV+/RtPILbQJMeJHokvVo=; b=uxgSW9mOeGCMpQWDp7QhxLJXMc565YE2V3HJ2BR+QLswbDkO2tQvnqL96p2UaR2Aof PUErNx96m6IHdNbSBH0mS6nF9/wgr4RADE/JPIY1VKttD1cc772EV/gvmL/JPKxkQFZS 214AabqMeHemX9aIoNR/pMI5C9UeYc1LzN1Co=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.231.6.102 with SMTP id 38mr2887389iby.62.1318273141310; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Sender: christopher.morrow@gmail.com
Received: by 10.231.59.206 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <6D402923-AA10-4EA6-96DC-D88D8E935041@tcb.net>
References: <20111010160636.16168.55257.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <6D402923-AA10-4EA6-96DC-D88D8E935041@tcb.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:59:01 -0400
X-Google-Sender-Auth: yd6TB3GLlmGiWtg085fED1bpfCM
Message-ID: <CAL9jLaYkSJ+n_=Snrxt9o_-DZng+_jZL7+U16N_46xHMHfv7Ng@mail.gmail.com>
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cc: idr mailing list <idr@ietf.org>, idr chair <idr-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, RFC Editor <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP' to BCP (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt)
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/idr>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:59:02 -0000
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> wrote: > > Can someone clue me in as to when the status of this changed > from Informational to BCP, in particular since this occurred > after the IETF last call said intended publication was > Informational? I had thought (as had Warren when we last chatted ~20 mins ago) that it was supposed to be Informational. (as one data point in the wind) -chris > Also, what the implication of this might be on updating RFC 5065, > RFC 4271, etc.., as it "recommends against" standardized protocol > elements and doesn't contain RFC 2119 language. The IESG comments > discuss this as well, and I brought it up on the mailing list quite > a while ago when asking about expressly about intended status. > > In general, I don't have a problem with this being BCP if the wording > is cleaned up, but it certainly was not posited as BCP in WG or IETF > last call or discussed in the WG to that effect with any response. > > -danny > > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:06 PM, The IESG wrote: > >> The IESG has approved the following document: >> - 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP' >> (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt) as a BCP >> >> This document is the product of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group. >> >> The IESG contact persons are Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel. >> >> A URL of this Internet Draft is: >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets/ >> >> >> >> >> Technical Summary >> >> This document provides advice to operators. It deprecates >> the use of the AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET types of >> the AS_PATH in BGPv4. This is done to simplify the >> design and implementation of the BGP protocol and to make >> the semantics of the originator of a route more clear. >> >> Working Group Summary >> >> This document was adopted as a WG item on >> Oct 25th, 2010. There was an initial WGLC >> that concluded on April 13th, 2010. Comments >> from the initial WGLC were integrated and a >> second WGLC held, which concluded on May17, 2011. >> >> Document Quality >> >> This note provides advice to operators proposing that >> they cease using a current BGP protocol feature. >> >> Personnel >> >> John Scudder (jgs@juniper.net) is the document shepherd. >> Stewart Bryant (stbryant@cisco.com) is the responsible AD. >> >> RFC Editor Note >> >> There is no RFC2119 language used in the draft. >> >> Please remove section 2 - the RFC2119 section and the >> RFC2119 reference. >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >
- [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for Not Us… The IESG
- Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for No… Danny McPherson
- Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for No… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for No… t.petch
- Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for No… Stewart Bryant