Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP' to BCP (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt)

"t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com> Tue, 11 October 2011 10:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP' to BCP (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt)
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The status changed in -05 27Jul2011 following a request from Stewart Bryant
15Jul2011 ie during AD Review prior to IETF Last Call.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: "Danny McPherson" <danny@tcb.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Protocol Action: 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and
AS_CONFED_SET in BGP' to BCP (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt)


On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> wrote:
>
> Can someone clue me in as to when the status of this changed
> from Informational to BCP, in particular since this occurred
> after the IETF last call said intended publication was
> Informational?

I had thought (as had Warren when we last chatted ~20 mins ago) that
it was supposed to be Informational.

(as one data point in the wind)

-chris

> Also, what the implication of this might be on updating RFC 5065,
> RFC 4271, etc.., as it "recommends against" standardized protocol
> elements and doesn't contain RFC 2119 language. The IESG comments
> discuss this as well, and I brought it up on the mailing list quite
> a while ago when asking about expressly about intended status.
>
> In general, I don't have a problem with this being BCP if the wording
> is cleaned up, but it certainly was not posited as BCP in WG or IETF
> last call or discussed in the WG to that effect with any response.
>
> -danny
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:06 PM, The IESG wrote:
>
>> The IESG has approved the following document:
>> - 'Recommendation for Not Using AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP'
>> (draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets-06.txt) as a BCP
>>
>> This document is the product of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group.
>>
>> The IESG contact persons are Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel.
>>
>> A URL of this Internet Draft is:
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-sets/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Technical Summary
>>
>> This document provides advice to operators. It deprecates
>> the use of the AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET types of
>> the AS_PATH in BGPv4. This is done to simplify the
>> design and implementation of the BGP protocol and to make
>> the semantics of the originator of a route more clear.
>>
>> Working Group Summary
>>
>> This document was adopted as a WG item on
>> Oct 25th, 2010. There was an initial WGLC
>> that concluded on April 13th, 2010. Comments
>> from the initial WGLC were integrated and a
>> second WGLC held, which concluded on May17, 2011.
>>
>> Document Quality
>>
>> This note provides advice to operators proposing that
>> they cease using a current BGP protocol feature.
>>
>> Personnel
>>
>> John Scudder (jgs@juniper.net) is the document shepherd.
>> Stewart Bryant (stbryant@cisco.com) is the responsible AD.
>>
>> RFC Editor Note
>>
>> There is no RFC2119 language used in the draft.
>>
>> Please remove section 2 - the RFC2119 section and the
>> RFC2119 reference.
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