Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki
Dave CROCKER <dhc@dcrocker.net> Tue, 09 February 2010 16:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-outcomes] [OPS-AREA] IETF Outcomes wiki
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Dave, On 2/9/2010 7:53 AM, David Harrington wrote: > Hi, > > I think it would be good to set success and failure to match rfc 5218, > and have the legends page provide brief descriptions of the > categories, and reference RFC 5218 for more details. The easy question is: why? The definition in RFC 5218 is: "we consider a successful protocol to be one that both meets its original goals and is widely deployed." This means that a protocol is a failure if it is widely used, but for different purposes than it was intended. "Deployed" is also a problem, since there is a long track record of industry's having deployed something but never actually using it very much. I submit all of OSI as a prime example. These are the reasons the wiki was premised on the simple measure of use. However I note that the column that lists degree of success only uses the word 'adoption'. However Target Segment uses 'use'. d/ ps. I also note you've been busy updating net management-related entries. Thanks! -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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