Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-smtp-metadata-00.txt
Stephan Bosch <stephan@rename-it.nl> Sun, 22 March 2015 21:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-smtp-metadata-00.txt
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Hi, On 3/22/2015 4:48 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Constructive feedback would be very much appreciated! > I think this document can benefit from a more extensive introduction. I mainly like to know why a `clean separation of transaction-related state from the message itself' is necessary. What can go wrong if it isn't passed separately? What are the main benefits? What are the applications where this is relevant? I can take a few guesses for things like keying material, but the rationale for passing trace information like that is much less obvious. I see some hints throughout the text, but I think making this clear in the induction is important. Also, what is the application of being able to pass IMAP flags in SMTP? Normally, I wouldn't want to give the sender the ability to assign flags directly. And how would these flags interact with Sieve imap4flags? Regards, Stephan. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-smtp-metadata-00.txt > Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 12:25:40 -0800 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org> > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : Simple Mail Transfer Protocol extension for relaying Metadata > Author : Alexey Melnikov > Filename : draft-melnikov-smtp-metadata-00.txt > Pages : 11 > Date : 2015-03-07 > > Abstract: > This memo defines an extension to the SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer > Protocol) service whereby message metadata (such as Trace header > fields, IMAP flags, Keying material, etc) can be transferred in > separate containers similar to BDAT (RFC 3030, SMTP CHUNKING) > command. This allows clean separation of transaction related state > from the message itself. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-smtp-metadata/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-smtp-metadata-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-smtp mailing list > ietf-smtp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp
- [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-smtp-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… John Levine
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… John R Levine
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Ned Freed
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Brandon Long
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… John Levine
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Rolf E. Sonneveld
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… John Levine
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Ned Freed
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Ned Freed
- Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-melnikov-s… Brandon Long