Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.org
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Fri, 11 November 2016 01:19 UTC
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To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.org
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Hi John, At 05:53 10-11-2016, John C Klensin wrote: >That is consistent with the point I was trying to make. Part of >what I understood you to say was that the role, as currently >defined, was taking up too much time as compared to value and >your and Melinda to suggest that there weren't a lot of cases in >which it was likely to be particularly effective. I think there As this is an experiment I provided some data so that Jari can draw a conclusion. The time taken was more about providing information for the next person volunteering for the task, or a similar task. >is still potential value in the general concept and in >mechanisms that were lighter-weight and more about focusing >discussions, reducing repetition, and educating participants >than the Sergeant at Arms procedures. If so, or we want to >carry out _that_ experiment, the right next step is to reduce >the workload to be more proportionate to both need and acutal >value. The experiment was light-weight, i.e avoid getting to Sergeant at Arms procedures. Thanks for commenting about the potential value in the general concept. >That said, the one thing I wish you had done but didn't (and may >not have had the mandate to do) was to post those summaries with >enough confidence, and presumption of community backing, to be >able to say "these subthreads have been noted, continuing to >post on them without adding anything new will be considered >disruptive and turned over to the Sergeant at Arms". I would be going beyond the experiment if I attempted to restrict a subscriber from posting more messages which did not contain new information. It would also be at odds with the experiment being light-weight. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.org IETF Chair
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Melinda Shore
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Melinda Shore
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… George Michaelson
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… John C Klensin
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… John C Klensin
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Dave Crocker
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Stephen Farrell
- RE: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Christian Huitema
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy