Re: Proposed IETF Anti-Harassment Policy

Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> Tue, 22 October 2013 21:43 UTC

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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:43:07 -0400
From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed IETF Anti-Harassment Policy
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 02:15:13PM +0000, Ted Lemon wrote:
> 
> The path is harassment->ombudsbeing, not harassment->wg chair.  I
> would expect the ombudsperson to push back at this point unless
> something inappropriate was said.  If someone says "that's a stupid
> idea, because FOO" and "because FOO" is valid, then it would be
> appropriate for the ombudsperson to say to the offending party, "you
> know, you didn't need to say that was a stupid idea—all you needed
> to say was 'because FOO.'".  OTOH, if the offending party said "I'm
> going to cut off a deer's head and leave it in your refrigerator if
> you don't stop denying that FOO," then that would elicit a different
> response.

What about a slide presentation in a wg discussion in perpass which
included the following image?

     http://blog.chron.com/nickanderson/tag/nsa/

Bjoern Hoehrmann has already asserted he believes it would be
considered harassment.

						- Ted