Re: Diversity considerations

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 02 October 2018 17:45 UTC

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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 13:45:28 -0400
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> ISTM that it’s always English speakers who are concerned about people who speak languages not written in Latin characters.
>
> Thanks you for your concern, but I don’t think that forking technical discussions and coming up with drafts that most of the community will not be able to read is solving any problem.

I don't want and I'm pretty sure Lloyd doesn want anyone to write I-Ds in 
Hebrew or Tamil, I want people who can say informed things about IDN and 
other i18n proposals that involve strings written in their languages.

R's,
John

>> On 2 Oct 2018, at 3:11, Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> "Actually, I'm more interested in diversity of sconomic backgrounds, in
>> particular, countries that aren't in the G20, and that speak languages
>> not written in latin characters, because people's use of and
>> experience of the Internet are quite different."
>>
>>
>> This is why I wrote
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wood-discussion-beyond-english/
>>
>>
>> Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk http://about.me/lloydwood
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>> From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
>>> To: ietf@ietf.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 8:28
>>> Subject: Re: Diversity considerations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In article <b03e8de5-0fe1-bd27-7120-ffa129419bb6@lounge.org> you write:
>>>
>>>> We want to promote all kinds of diversity here: race, gender,
>>>> sexual orientation, AND ethnicity.
>>>
>>> Actually, I'm more interested in diversity of sconomic backgrounds, in
>>> particular, countries that aren't in the G20, and that speak languages
>>> not written in latin characters, because people's use of and
>>> experience of the Internet are quite different.
>>>
>>> For example, in India there are tiny little data packages that give
>>> you a megabyte of data on your phone for a few days.  I expect people
>>> who use those packages use their phones differently from people with
>>> gigabytes per month.