Re: General non-confidential input to NomCom
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 26 September 2018 20:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: General non-confidential input to NomCom
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 2018-09-27 03:21, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for sharing this. It has struck me as strange before that the descriptions of desired expertise are sole-sourced from the roles/bodies themselves. This doesn’t seem strictly required by RFC 7437, though, so I wonder if there might be room to consider changes or improvements to that process in future cycles. Yes, possibly. There are other issues such as diversity and communication skills that don't really fit in my draft but should be covered somewhere. > I would also be curious which of the “expectations” you think apply to the community as a whole, given that the “leaders” are all drawn from the community. I would hope most of them apply, optimistically. Let's say "aspirationally" and I agree with you. Of course all my text is at the disposal of the IETF; some of it might fit in the Tao, for example. Regards Brian > > Alissa > > >> On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: General non-confidential input to NomCom >> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:04:05 +1200 >> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> >> Organization: University of Auckland >> To: nomcom-2018@ietf.org >> >> Dear NomCom, >> >> Firstly, thank you for volunteering for this important service to the >> community. >> >> Just before you start the task of evaluating the nominees, I'd like to >> give you some food for thought about my opinion of what the community >> expects from the people chosen to serve in the roles handled by NomCom. >> Intentionally, I'm offering this input in public (hence I will forward >> this to the IETF mailing list). Since there are quite a few points, >> I've posted my input as an I-D: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-community-leaders >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-community-leaders/ >> >> As the draft says, I ask you to consider the issues described when >> evaluating all candidates. >> >> Thanks and regards, >> Brian Carpenter >> > > . >
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