Re: HTTP/2 should be published at Internet Standard

Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> Fri, 20 February 2015 03:31 UTC

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From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
Subject: Re: HTTP/2 should be published at Internet Standard
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>When httpbis was chartered, my suggestion for the charter

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2012JulSep/0840.html


was not accepted. But I think the work I called for still need to be done: 
defining clearly how HTTP/2 is or isn’t a big improvement for different 
applications, and what you have to do to use it effectively, evaluating 
the tradeoffs for various sent-over-HTTP services, etc.