Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 28 July 2017 23:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, "Brzozowski, John" <John_Brzozowski@comcast.com>
Cc: "draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental@ietf.org" <draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental@ietf.org>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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On 28/07/17 21:38, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I'm not very enthusiastic about this. People come to the IETF to do work > and having > to deal with potential bustage from this experiment gets in the way of that. > +1 IIUC correctly this'd also break DNSSEC for some names and has to. If so, I'd be against it. S. > -Ekr > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Brzozowski, John < > John_Brzozowski@comcast.com> wrote: > >> Apologies, I understand this mail did not make it to the various lists. >> >> John >> +1-484-962-0060 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Brzozowski <John_Brzozowski@Cable.Comcast.com> >> Date: Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 20:28 >> To: "draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental@ietf.org" < >> draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental@ietf.org> >> Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, Jim >> Martin <jim@daedelus.com>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>, Suresh >> Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> >> Subject: Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings >> >> Folks, >> >> Apologies in advance for the gratuitous cross posting (v6ops, ietf, >> ipv6, sunset4, softwires). I hope, to you all, this is worth the added >> email. >> >> The draft below was written to provide the necessary documentation to >> enable the IETF (the NOC, participants, etc.) to migrate to an IPv6 only >> primary network connection (Wi-Fi and wired) that utilizes NAT64+DNS64 to >> access IPv4 only content. The request for IETF 99 has been to have the >> primary “ietf†SSID adhere to what is documented in the I-D below. I trust >> the motivation is understood. This means that the main “ietf†SSID would >> be switched to be IPv6 only with NAT64+DNS64 (at layer 3) per the I-D >> below. Given the that IETF99 is upon us, this may or may not be entirely >> possible. >> >> At this stage, the infrastructure preparations for IETF 99 should be >> in place to ensure that the IETF has the necessary hardware for redundancy >> and performance. >> >> So, we are all seeking your input. Given the above, what would all >> you suggest is tolerable for IETF99 as it pertains to the I-D below? >> >> • IPv6 only per the I-D for the balance of IETF week? >> • IPv6 only per the I-D for one or more days this week? >> • IPv6 only per the I-D for the plenary? >> • IPv6 only per the I-D for the next IETF meeting? >> >> Please send us your feedback. >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> +1-484-962-0060 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org> >> Date: Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 03:04 >> To: Marcus Keane <marcus.keane@microsoft.com>, Jen Linkova < >> furry@google.com>, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>, John Brzozowski < >> John_Brzozowski@Cable.Comcast.com>, Erik Kline <ek@google.com>, John >> Brzozowski <John_Brzozowski@Cable.Comcast.com>, David Schinazi < >> dschinazi@apple.com>, Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>, Jen Linkova < >> furry@google.com>, Paul Saab <ps@fb.com>, David Schinazi < >> dschinazi@apple.com> >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6- >> only-incremental-00.txt >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6- >> only-incremental-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by John Jason Brzozowski and >> posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF >> Meetings >> Document date: 2017-06-30 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 15 >> URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet- >> drafts/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental-00.txt >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ >> doc/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental/ >> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/ >> draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental-00 >> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ >> doc/html/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental-00 >> >> >> Abstract: >> The purpose of this document is to provide a blueprint and >> guidance >> for deploying IPv6-only Wi-Fi at IETF meetings. This document >> outlines infrastructure and operational guidance that operators >> should consider when deploying IPv6-only networks using NAT64 >> and >> DNS64 to support communication to legacy IPv4-only services. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
- RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only W… Brzozowski, John
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Bill Fenner
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Eric Rescorla
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Dorian Kim
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Stephen Farrell
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Stephen Farrell
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… heasley
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Patrik Fältström
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Eric Rescorla
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Leif Johansson
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Stephen Farrell
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Leif Johansson
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Richard Barnes
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Christian Huitema
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Tim Chown
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Eric Rescorla
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Stephen Farrell
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Tim Chown
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Tim Chown
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Leddy, John
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Lee Howard
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Bill Fenner
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Christian Huitema
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… heasley
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… joel jaeggli
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… John Levine
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… John Levine
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Michael Richardson
- RE: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Eric Gray
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Tim Chown
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Adam Roach
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Bill Fenner
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Bill Fenner
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Alia Atlas
- RE: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Mark Andrews
- RE: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Nick Hilliard
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Philip Homburg
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Mark Andrews
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… John Levine
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Tim Chown
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Mark Andrews
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Mark Andrews
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Ted Lemon
- RE: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… mohamed.boucadair
- Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router for … Philip Homburg
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … Christian Huitema
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … Christian Huitema
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … Christian Huitema
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Michael Breuer
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … mohamed.boucadair
- Re: Incremental Deployment of CLAT on the router … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… John Curran
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Lee Howard
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Jen Linkova
- Re: RESENDING - Incremental Deployment of IPv6-on… Randy Bush