Re: IETF mail server and SSLv3
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Fri, 26 February 2016 23:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF mail server and SSLv3
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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Solarus <solarus@ultrawaves.fr> wrote: > >>> Disabling SSLv3 can not possibly provide any security benefit here, >>> but may cause interop problems and less security for a few old peers. >> >> Would you then go further and say that SMTP servers should leave SSLv2 >> and/or EXPORT ciphers or single-DES enabled? If not, why not? > > No. "No" as in they should not leave SSLv2/EXPORT/1DES enabled? > But with SMTP, STARTTLS is an opportunistic encryption, if you don't > support the maximum of ciphers, the other server will send you mails in > cleartext. > And it's worse to receive and send mail in cleartext than with a weak > encryption. Your rationale seems to contradict the "No" response. -- Viktor.
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