RE: [dispatch] VIPR - proposed charter version 3

"Roni Even" <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> Wed, 30 June 2010 16:04 UTC

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From: Roni Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com>
To: 'Mary Barnes' <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>, "'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'" <dromasca@avaya.com>
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Subject: RE: [dispatch] VIPR - proposed charter version 3
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:03:59 +0300
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Mary,
When I read the charter it is not clear why from the first paragraph you
deduct the second paragraph.
If the first paragraph will say
" The goal of this working group is to enable inter-domain communications
over the Internet, using protocols such as SIP, while still allowing people
to use the called person assigned circuit switch phone number for
identifying the person with whom they wish to communicate. " 
It may look clearer.

Still this is based on the assumption that using other ways to assign and
authenticate SIP phone numbers using central databases is not catching up
because the carriers object to implement it and not due to any other reason
like preferences of enterprises IT to use PSTN for calls because of better
quality of service and manageability.

Roni Even

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Mary Barnes
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:24 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: DISPATCH; IETF-Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [dispatch] VIPR - proposed charter version 3
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> The term peer to peer is intended to exclude mechanisms that would use
> a central repository for the information:  This was discussed in an
> earlier thread:
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dispatch/current/msg02027.html
> 
> In one sense it is a solution, however, in another sense it is reusing
> SIP related functionality defined in RAI and thus is in a similar vein
> as specifying the use of SIP in a charter.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mary.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:42 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> <dromasca@avaya.com> wrote:
> >> The VIPR WG will address this problem by developing a peer to
> >> peer based approach to finding domains that claim to be
> >> responsible for a given phone number and validation protocols
> >> to ensure a reasonable likelihood that a given domain
> >> actually is responsible for the phone number.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Clarification question. What exactly means 'peer to peer based
> approach'
> > and what kind of approaches are excluded by having this in the
> charter.
> > Does 'approach' mean solution? If so why does a specific type of
> > solution need to be agreed in the charter, while all we have at hand
> at
> > this point are individual contribution I-Ds that describe the
> 'problem
> > statement and some possible starting points for solutions'?
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mary Barnes
> >> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:38 PM
> >> To: DISPATCH
> >> Subject: [dispatch] VIPR - proposed charter version 3
> >>
> >
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