Re: ISMS working group and charter problems
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Thu, 08 September 2005 19:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: ISMS working group and charter problems
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>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Petch <nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com> writes: Tom> I think that there is subtext that is missing here. Tom> Call Home was declared out of scope, more or less, for isms Tom> before the decision to use SSH was taken (the suggestion was Tom> made on the isms list to set up a BOF in the Operations Area Tom> to explore Call Home). I'm not sure this is accurate, but I don't think it matters. Tom> The significance is that SSH is not Tom> perceived as a good fit for Call Home, whereas a different Tom> protocol, seen as less suitable in other regards, might be. Tom> So if the community at large comes to regard Call Home as a Tom> mandatory requirement, then that would be construed as saying Tom> that SSH is the wrong protocol (which may be what this Tom> discussion is really about:-). I don't believe that it is true that ssh is not perceived as a good fit for call home. I think the strongest statement I've seen in that regard is that ssh is not the solution netconf chose for call home, so we might end up with incompatible solutions if ISMS chooses a different solution than netconf. Note that the mandatory to implement solution for netconf is based on ssh and does not support call home. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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