Re: [saag] SSH & Ntruprime

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Mon, 25 March 2024 20:52 UTC

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 13:51:15 -0700
To: Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@alumni.stanford.edu>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: [saag] SSH & Ntruprime
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Hi Randy,
At 01:19 PM 25-03-2024, Randy Presuhn wrote:
>What is the conflict you see?  The text you cited seems to me to present
>no conflict.  A posted Internet-Draft certainly seems to fit within
>the realm of "a document published outside of the RFC path, including
>informal documentation."

This takes the discussion to what Mike pointed out at 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/FqmdAQY_C7jOGh_KV-HkC5MP7Xs

I also mentioned "formal public specification".  If I am not 
mistaken, that would include standards from other bodies or national 
standards for which a code point is required.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy