Re: 2606bis

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Thu, 20 October 2005 09:58 UTC

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Cc: Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: 2606bis
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We *could* open that can of worms, but a downref really sends
the same message with less work.

    Brian

John C Klensin wrote:
> 
> --On Wednesday, 19 October, 2005 14:40 -0700 Bill Fenner
> <fenner@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>On 10/19/05, Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> wrote:
>>
>>>... to see a big red blinking WAIT
>>>for each normative reference to an informational RfC.
>>
>>Not if the RFC 3967 procedure is followed ("Clarifying when
>>Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents
>>at a Lower Level.")
> 
> 
> Or, of course, we could ask for a Last Call and retroactively
> reclassify RFC 1591 as a BCP.  Because there was not even a
> serious attempt to solicit or identify community consensus
> around the variations that ICANN's ICP-1 introduced into the RFC
> 1591 norms and definitions, and a large fraction of top-level
> domains and others have declined to accept the ICANN version,
> 1591 probably still does represent a best practice consensus in
> most respects.
> :-)
> 
>     john
> 
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