Re: [Perc] Last Call: <draft-ietf-perc-private-media-framework-08.txt> (A Solution Framework for Private Media in Privacy Enhanced RTP Conferencing) to Proposed Standard

[Emil Ivov <[e-mail]>]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 5:05 PM Cullen Jennings <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> Mostly I view this thread as the same set of people that failed to get
> consensus in the WG trying to reopen
>

Aha! I am glad we agree on the lack of consensus in the  WG! I feel that we
are making progress here! All hope is not lost! ;)

issues that was clearly not consensus for
>

Agreed again!

Mostly the agreement was we would the way EKT and double was done breaking
> all the existing implementation if Sergio and Emil agreed they would
> support that approach.  Before the meeting, Emil decided he did not support
> it which made the many of us regret making the breaking changes.
>

Now this bit here is somewhat vexing. Of course I am sure it is entirely
unintentional so let me just correct this:  "Before the meeting, Emil
decided he did not support it" is quite an, obviously accidental but still,
misrepresentation of reality!

You had discussions with people. I was not an active part of them. You put
my name on a slide of "supporters" and you were about to present to that to
the WG. I saw that and asked you to remove my name. Please do not imply
sudden whimsical changes of positions.

Next time my support is important to you, please simply reach out and I'd
be happy to hear you out.

We were hoping to find a way to move forward without the constant problem
> of people saying the did not like the solution in the WG while not being
> able to present an alternative that addressed the security requirements and
> issues that had been raised (such as the splicing attack).
>

Ah! That "splicing attack"! You often refer to it and have yet to explain
it ... I am confident that you only mean well of course, and promise that,
as soon as you provide details, we will come back with explanations and
security considerations on how to protect against the specific vectors that
concern you.

My very best regards!
Emil