Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolution in a Middlebox Internet (SEMI)
Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Mon, 15 December 2014 08:13 UTC
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I wrote: >> I had thought that part of the meeting would be to address the tension >> between these two issues, but I have also since learned it has become >> "how do we evolve the Internet to accept whatever middleboxes want to >> do" - i.e., precisely the latter of your examples. > That's called "anarchy", and the results only serve to increase entropy. Or, are you assuming some formal way to describe behavior of middle boxes, with which end systems can cooperate with the middle boxes? Masataka Ohta
- Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolution … IAB Chair
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… IAB Chair
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Eliot Lear
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolut… Masataka Ohta