Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey

[Olufemi Komolafe <[e-mail]>]

Tim,

Thanks.  Looks good to me.  I don’t have anything to add other than my earlier suggestions which you’ve replied to.

Anyone else got any comments?

Regards,
Femi

> On 21 Nov 2019, at 15:07, Tim Chown <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can I get a final list of changes required?
> 
> It’s now at this URL, same pw of ietfpim.
> 
> https://jisc.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/survey-on-implementations-and-deployment-of-igmpv3-and-mld-2 <https://jisc.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/survey-on-implementations-and-deployment-of-igmpv3-and-mld-2>
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 18 Nov 2019, at 11:41, Mike McBride <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Feel free to use [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> for questions unless you want to
>> use one of your own emails.
>> 
>> thanks, its looking good.
>> 
>> mike
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:42 AM Tim Chown <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Some points picked up on below, the rest I’ll wait for consensus...
>>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2019, at 10:34, Olufemi Komolafe <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> 
>>> The survey looks really good!  Thanks for helping with this; much appreciated :-)
>>> 
>>> Please see inline for some responses….
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2019, at 09:44, Tim Chown <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 5:41 AM Tim Chown <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Apologies for the delay in setting this up.  I have launched a (draft) survey at:
>>> https://jisc.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/survey-on-implementations-and-deployment-of-igmpv3-and-mld <https://jisc.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/survey-on-implementations-and-deployment-of-igmpv3-and-mld>
>>> 
>>> I have set a password of ietfpim for now.  I used an IETF logo rather than the Jisc one.
>>> 
>>> I have tried to add some logic to allow vendors and/or operators to use the same questionnaire.
>>> 
>>> Please test vigorously and check it captures the spirit of the draft correctly.
>>> 
>>> Some questions for you -
>>> 
>>> - which questions should be compulsory?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure we need to make any questions compulsory.  Hopefully folks will answer most/all the questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - should the anonymous question come before we ask names etc?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I think that the question about anonymity should come before asking for the name/contact info.  I do think we should still ask for the name/contact info, even if they indicate they want to complete it anonymously, as supplying this personal info will probably make people feel a bit more accountable and so will likely give their replies a bit more consideration.  I think we should clarify what we mean by “anonymously” by changing the question to:
>>> “Do you wish to complete the survey anonymously (in which case you will not be identified in the report)?"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - should the issues with fallback be a y/n answer (as is) or a “What issues have you had with…” free text?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think the free text idea is better.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - I added a final “any other comments” type question.  Is that ok?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yep, good idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, some other thoughts…...
>>> 
>>> I think we should change:
>>> Would you like to complete the part of the survey targeted at vendors and host implementors?
>>> + Yes
>>> + No
>>> to
>>> Which part of the survey would you like to complete?  The part targeted at
>>> + Vendor and host implementors?
>>> + Network operators?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The problem with that is the some people might want to do both, but also that the survey tool doesn’t support such a flow; if you choose the implementor one when you get to the end of that you hit the operator section, so I need to ask twice, whichever way it’s done anyway.
>>> 
>>> In case they find our list insufficient, should we add a box in which they can write in “Any other feature” after the list we provide for the “Which IGMPv3 and MLDv2 features do you use?” question?
>>> 
>>> Will numbering the questions help processing the results etc?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They are numbered, I just don’t have that turned on.  I could do so.
>>> 
>>> Also, should we put a contact email address at the start in case people have questions?  Perhaps the WG chairs?  Or your own?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We can do that - if so let me know whose details to add.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Femi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While you consider those, I’ll find out why each question has a pointless “More info” box next to it.
>>> 
>>> Bes6t wishes,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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