Re: [Ila] [DMM] Questions about SRv6 mobile user-plane

Hi Sri,

My observations are very close to Tom’s.
Is new draft going to address questions asked or there will be follow up?

Thanks!

Regards,
Jeff

> On Jan 26, 2018, at 09:19, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <sgundave@cisco.com> wrote:
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> Hi Tom:
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> Marco and myself are planning to publish another proposal on anchor-less mobility (leveraging SRv6). That may be of interest to you from ILA point of view. We will post the draft in one or two weeks.
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> Regards
> Sri
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> From: dmm <dmm-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>
> Date: Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:13 AM
> To: "dmm@ietf.org" <dmm@ietf.org>, "ila@ietf.org" <ila@ietf.org>
> Subject: [DMM] Questions about SRv6 mobile user-plane
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am working on a comparison between ILA and SRv6 for the mobile user-plane. I have some questions/comments about SRv6 and particularly on the example use cases that were depicted in the slides that were presented in IETF100:
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dmm-srv6-for-mobile-user-plane/
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> - It's clear from the depicted use cases that extension header insertion is being done by intermediate nodes, but extension header insertion is currently prohibited by RFC8200. There was an I-D posted on 6man to allow this for SR, but that was met with pushback. Is there going to be followup to resolve this?
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> - For the uplink use cases, this seems to be more like using SR to source route to an egress router. In other words, it's not strictly related to mobility. Is there some connection to mobility that I'm missing?
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> - The size or number of SR headers in the uplink cases seems to be larger than necessary (IMO minimizing these is important since each additional sid is ~1% overhead of standard MTU). In this first scenario sid[1]=A2::1 and DA=A2::1-- this seems to be redundant information. Also this depicts a second SR being inserted, but the first one should no longer be relevant. Why not just discard the first one and save the overhead? In the second scenario, DA is changing from A2::1 to A3::1, but AFAICT that was not done per the SR processing. What is the operation that happened here? (it's actaully looks like an ILA transfomation).
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> - Considering the points above, could this have been done in the following manner to minimize overhead? A1 creates one SRH with one sid and makes DA=A2. A2 makes DA=A3. At A3 SR is processed, DA is restored to Internet address, and EH is removed.
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> - For downlink this does see to be relevant to mobility. But I have the same question, wouldn't it be less overhead to only use one SRH and one sid? i.e. A3 creates an SRH with just one sid that is the S:: (identifier in identifier/locator speak) and set DA to A2, and then A2 sets DA to A1, A1 restores original packet for delivery.
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> - One possible typo. In the last use case slide SA=S:: and DA=D::, I believe these should be swapped?
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> Thanks,
> Tom
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