Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06

[Jeffery Hammond <[e-mail]>]

Fred;
	Thanks. Let me read the draft before I continue to slow this work down. I do feel this could be an emerging problem.

Jeff Hammond
Samsung System Engineer


-----Original Message-----
From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:[e-mail]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:25 PM
To: Jeffery Hammond; 'Internet Area'
Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06

Hi Jeff,

> what other problems are associated with Internet tunneling

Wow, there's a lot. Tunnel endpoint discovery, route optimization, nested tunnels within tunnels, security, policy, etc.

I address a number of these points in draft-templin-aerolink, which might be of interest to mobile device manufacturers.

Thanks - Fred
[e-mail]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffery Hammond [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:58 AM
> To: Templin, Fred L; 'Internet Area'
> Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of 
> draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
> 
> Hi Fred;
> 	Thanks for the update in tunneling technologies, looks like I have 
> some research to do. Other than fragmentation which was the focus of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu what other problems are associated with Internet tunneling.
> 
> Jeff Hammond
> Samsung System Engineer
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:34 PM
> To: Jeffery Hammond; 'Internet Area'
> Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of 
> draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Int-area [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of 
> > Jeffery Hammond
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:08 PM
> > To: 'Internet Area'
> > Subject: Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of
> > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
> >
> > 	I would like to see this also. Just went back and pulled the draft 
> > dated 3/5/2010 (I hope this is the latest one draft-touch- 
> > intarea-tunnels-01). It would be a good starting point. As this will 
> > only continue to grow and a central base and description would be
> nice.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > 	Other than I.P. in I.P. (GTP) and IPSec what other tunneling technologies would be considered?
> 
> There are lots and lots of them; way more than just GRE. Some kinds 
> that operate over UDP/IP are in some ways more flexible than just 
> IP-in-IP since  the network is so ossified around TCP and UDP. But, we should be able to come up with a set of BCP recommendations that apply to all tunnel types.
> 
> Thanks - Fred
> [e-mail]
> 
> > Jeff Hammond
> > Samsung System Engineer
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Int-area [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of 
> > Templin, Fred L
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:16 PM
> > To: Suresh Krishnan; Internet Area
> > Subject: Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of
> > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
> >
> > I will say again what I said at the microphone in Toronto. We really 
> > ought to move forward with "Tunnels in the Internet
> Architecture"
> > first so that other documents that discuss specific tunnel types can use it as a point of departure (if necessary).
> >
> > So, let's have Tunnels in the Internet Architecture brought back 
> > onto the front burner first so that other documents that come later can use it as a normative reference.
> >
> > Thanks - Fred
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Int-area [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of 
> > > Suresh Krishnan
> > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:17 PM
> > > To: Internet Area
> > > Subject: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of
> > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >     This draft has been presented at intarea face to face meetings 
> > > and has received a bit of discussion. This call is being initiated 
> > > to determine whether there is WG consensus towards adoption of
> > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 as an intarea WG draft. The draft 
> > > is available at
> > >
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
> > >
> > > Please state whether or not you're in favor of the adoption by 
> > > replying to this email. If you are not in favor, please also state 
> > > your objections in your response. This adoption call will complete on 2014-09-23.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Suresh & Juan Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
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