Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Jeffery Hammond <jhammond@sta.samsung.com>, 'Internet Area' <int-area@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06
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Thanks Jeff, Also forgot to add "mobility" to my list. And, AERO already includes a comprehensive tunnel MTU and fragmentation solution that should be adapted for general use and included in "intarea-tunnels" if the authors ever get around to reviving that document. Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffery Hammond [mailto:jhammond@sta.samsung.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:56 AM > To: Templin, Fred L; 'Internet Area' > Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > Fred; > Thanks. Let me read the draft before I continue to slow this work down. I do feel this could be an emerging problem. > > Jeff Hammond > Samsung System Engineer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:25 PM > To: Jeffery Hammond; 'Internet Area' > Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > Hi Jeff, > > > what other problems are associated with Internet tunneling > > Wow, there's a lot. Tunnel endpoint discovery, route optimization, nested tunnels within tunnels, security, policy, etc. > > I address a number of these points in draft-templin-aerolink, which might be of interest to mobile device manufacturers. > > Thanks - Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeffery Hammond [mailto:jhammond@sta.samsung.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:58 AM > > To: Templin, Fred L; 'Internet Area' > > Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > > > Hi Fred; > > Thanks for the update in tunneling technologies, looks like I have > > some research to do. Other than fragmentation which was the focus of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu what other problems are > associated with Internet tunneling. > > > > Jeff Hammond > > Samsung System Engineer > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:34 PM > > To: Jeffery Hammond; 'Internet Area' > > Subject: RE: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > > Jeffery Hammond > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:08 PM > > > To: 'Internet Area' > > > Subject: Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of > > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > > > > > I would like to see this also. Just went back and pulled the draft > > > dated 3/5/2010 (I hope this is the latest one draft-touch- > > > intarea-tunnels-01). It would be a good starting point. As this will > > > only continue to grow and a central base and description would be > > nice. > > > > Agreed. > > > > > Other than I.P. in I.P. (GTP) and IPSec what other tunneling technologies would be considered? > > > > There are lots and lots of them; way more than just GRE. Some kinds > > that operate over UDP/IP are in some ways more flexible than just > > IP-in-IP since the network is so ossified around TCP and UDP. But, we should be able to come up with a set of BCP > recommendations that apply to all tunnel types. > > > > Thanks - Fred > > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > > > > > Jeff Hammond > > > Samsung System Engineer > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > > Templin, Fred L > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:16 PM > > > To: Suresh Krishnan; Internet Area > > > Subject: Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of > > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > > > > > I will say again what I said at the microphone in Toronto. We really > > > ought to move forward with "Tunnels in the Internet > > Architecture" > > > first so that other documents that discuss specific tunnel types can use it as a point of departure (if necessary). > > > > > > So, let's have Tunnels in the Internet Architecture brought back > > > onto the front burner first so that other documents that come later can use it as a normative reference. > > > > > > Thanks - Fred > > > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > > > Suresh Krishnan > > > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:17 PM > > > > To: Internet Area > > > > Subject: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of > > > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This draft has been presented at intarea face to face meetings > > > > and has received a bit of discussion. This call is being initiated > > > > to determine whether there is WG consensus towards adoption of > > > > draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 as an intarea WG draft. The draft > > > > is available at > > > > > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06 > > > > > > > > Please state whether or not you're in favor of the adoption by > > > > replying to this email. If you are not in favor, please also state > > > > your objections in your response. This adoption call will complete on 2014-09-23. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Suresh & Juan Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Int-area mailing list > > > > Int-area@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Int-area mailing list > > > Int-area@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Int-area mailing list > > > Int-area@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
- [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-b… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Ross Callon
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Templin, Fred L
- [Int-area] GRE IPv6 (Was: (REVISED) Call for adop… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Jeffery Hammond
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Jeffery Hammond
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Jeffery Hammond
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of dra… Joe Touch