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Re: [Internetgovtech] Guiding the Evolution of the IANA Protocol Parameter Registries

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 13 March 2014 10:38 UTC

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Not 6620, so which one do you mean?

Regards
   Brian


On 13/03/2014 21:12, l.wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
> Ah, RFC 6620 and RFC 4748. 
> 
> Lloyd Wood
> http://about.me/lloydwood
> ________________________________________
> From: S Moonesamy [sm+ietf@elandsys.com]
> Sent: 13 March 2014 07:46
> To: Geoff Huston; Wood L  Dr (Electronic Eng)
> Cc: internetgovtech@iab.org
> Subject: Re: Guiding the Evolution of the IANA Protocol Parameter  Registries
> 
> Hi Geoff,
> At 22:23 12-03-2014, Geoff Huston wrote:
>> Weaving the web of wording around various RFCs and the distinctions
>> between the IASA, the IAOC and the IETF, I have absolutely no idea
>> whether a) the IETF itself is an ISOC activity per se and b) issues
>> about the intellectual property rights associated with the protocol
>> parameter registry contents vest with any of the preceding bodies.
>> But I thought we were talking principles, and the principle I was
>> espousing was that all intellectual property rights in the content
>> of the protocol parameters registries remains with the IETF, and
>> does not vest with the registry operator. I guess I'm treading on
>> the toes of an historic US position that in the past appeared to be
>> that the intellectual property rights of the IANA protocol parameter
>> registries that were operated under the terms of contracts with
>> variously ARPA, DARPA and the NSF vested with the USG in some
>> fashion, and its a question that we appear to want to avoid as there
>> has never been any statements from the NTIA that expressly disclaim
>> this, and noone appears to want to press the point.
> 
> I'll comment about (b).  There is a RFC published in 2011 which
> states that the intellectual property rights of IETF protocol
> parameter assignment information is held by the IETF Trust.  There
> isn't any (formal) agreement about the intellectual property
> rights.  There is, as mentioned above, the legacy stuff.  The bottom
> line is that the legal aspect is unclear.
> 
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
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