Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-msg-00
"Aamer Akhter (aakhter)" <aakhter@cisco.com> Tue, 27 March 2012 22:57 UTC
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To: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>, Hendrik Scholz <hendrik.scholz@voipfuture.com>
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Hadriel, Multiple SSRC within the 5-tuple is how the CTS product line encodes multiple audio/video channels. Other implementations eg. T3 series use different 5-tuples. (5-tuple = ipsrc, ipdst, iprotocol, l4ports) " we should treat is as a separate flow from an IPFIX reporting perspective, right?" this is exactly what is done in the implementation of: draft-akhter-opsawg-perfmon-ipfix draft-akhter-opsawg-perfmon-method In fact, the key fields for the default RTP template (IOS configuration follows): match ipv4 protocol match ipv4 source address match ipv4 destination address match transport source-port match transport destination-port match transport rtp ssrc and the collect fields are: collect routing forwarding-status collect ipv4 dscp collect ipv4 ttl collect transport packets expected counter collect transport packets lost counter collect transport packets lost rate collect transport event packet-loss counter collect transport rtp jitter mean collect transport rtp jitter minimum collect transport rtp jitter maximum collect interface input collect interface output collect counter bytes collect counter packets collect counter bytes rate collect counter packets dropped collect timestamp interval collect application media bytes counter collect application media bytes rate collect application media packets counter collect application media packets rate collect application media event collect monitor event If the 'rtp ssrc' is not set as a key field, the various metrics form the differing SSRC flows are aggregated to how a IPFIX 'flow' is defined. -----Original Message----- From: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipfix-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hadriel Kaplan Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:41 PM To: Hendrik Scholz Cc: <ipfix@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-msg-00 On Mar 27, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Hendrik Scholz wrote: >> 3) Some of the IEs imply there's a single SSRC for a flow - are you >> assuming a flow is by definition the 6-tuple of IP src/dest, port >> src/dest, transport type, and SSRC? In other words, if there are two >> or more SSRCs in the same 5-tuple, would they be separate IPFIX >> flows? (they're only one "RTP" session from an RTP and SDP >> perspective) > > Yes, a separate SSRC in between two nodes should be recorded in > separate records. After all these streams would most likely belong to > separate calls. As much as I'd love for that to be the case, technically they might or might not. For normal voice between two users it's always the case. But RFC 3550 always supported separate SSRCs in the same RTP session and thus in the same 5-tuple, and RTCWeb and CLUE Working Groups have both been talking about using that ability. (so for example video from multiple cameras goes in the same RTP session, with separate SSRCs) At least that's what I believe they're thinking of. And of course even for a normal voice call there could be an SSRC collision, changing the SSRC mid-call. I'm ok with assuming one, just wondering what we do if we get a second one. I think you're saying we should treat is as a separate flow from an IPFIX reporting perspective, right? -hadriel _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix
- [IPFIX] initial draft for RTP message transport i… Hendrik Scholz
- [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-msg-00 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Hendrik Scholz
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Aamer Akhter (aakhter)
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Aamer Akhter (aakhter)
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [IPFIX] comments on draft-scholz-ipfix-rtp-ms… Paul Aitken