[ippm] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-metrics
Al Morton <acmorton@att.com> Thu, 09 February 2012 13:20 UTC
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Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:20:52 -0500
To: Henk Uijterwaal <henk@uijterwaal.nl>, Matt Zekauskas <matt@internet2.edu>
From: Al Morton <acmorton@att.com>
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Subject: [ippm] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-metrics
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Henk, Matt, Just Prior to the WGLC, Daniel Genin sent the message below to me and the list, and I just located it in the archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ippm/current/msg02769.html In any case, the authors plan to address Daniel's comments and issue a revised draft, hopefully this weekend. regards, Al >Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:03:06 -0500 >From: Daniel Genin <dgenin@nist.gov> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 >Thunderbird/9.0.1 >To: Al Morton <acmorton@att.com> >CC: IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org> >Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Expiration impending: >draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-metrics >X-NIST-MailScanner: Found to be clean >X-NIST-MailScanner-From: dgenin@nist.gov > >A very lucid and well written exposition on the relevance of >metric's consumer to the way that it should be defined. It is >surprising this important point has not been addressed earlier. > >Just a couple of comments: > >I. In Section 5.1.2 the bulleted list item 2 appears to suggest that >orthogonality of metrics is a desirable property, however, no >explanation for this is given. Moreover, metrics appearing in >Section 6 do not appear to be orthogonal suggesting that >orthogonality is not a necessary property. If orthogonality is a >desirable property in the case of delay and loss metrics but not in >the case of raw capacity metrics this probably needs to be clarified. > >II. Minor grammatical corrections: > 1. Section 5.2, Paragraph 1, line 5 "...is based a conditional > distribution..." should probably be "...is based on a conditional >distribution...". > 2. Section 6.2, the first letter of the title needs to be capitalized. > 3. Section 6.6, Paragraph 1, line 2 "...gives a the user..." > should probably be "...gives the user..." > 4. Section 6.6, Paragraph 2, line 1 "What ways can > Utilization be measured..." should probably be "In what ways can > Utilization be measured..." or "How can Utilization be measured..." > 5. Section 7.5, Paragraph 1, line 2 "...gives a the user..." > should probably be "...gives the user..." > >Hope this is useful. >Best regards, >Daniel > >On 1/7/2012 10:26 AM, Al Morton wrote: >>At 08:37 AM 1/2/2012, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: >>>Authors: Please update this draft. >>>All others: please read and comment on this document so we can finish it. >>> >>>Henk >>As promised, here's the update of reporting metrics where we've >>finished section 6 based on recent measurement and reporting >>experience. Also checked nits and the list (discussion of this >>draft has been rather long-term, dating back many years). >> >>regards, >>Al >> >> >>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics >>Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Reporting Metrics: Different Points of View >> Author(s) : Al Morton >> Gomathi Ramachandran >> Ganga Maguluri >> Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-metrics-06.txt >> Pages : 26 >> Date : 2012-01-07 >> >> Consumers of IP network performance metrics have many different uses >> in mind. The memo provides "long-term" reporting considerations >> (e.g, days, weeks or months, as opposed to 10 seconds), based on >> analysis of the two key audience points-of-view. It describes how >> the audience categories affect the selection of metric parameters and >> options when seeking info that serves their needs. >> >> >> >>A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-metrics-06.txt >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>ippm mailing list >>ippm@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > >
- [ippm] Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-ippm… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [ippm] Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-… Al Morton
- Re: [ippm] Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [ippm] Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-… Daniel Genin
- Re: [ippm] Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-ietf-… Al Morton
- [ippm] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Expiration impending: draft-… Al Morton
- Re: [ippm] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Expiration impending: dr… Henk Uijterwaal