Re: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt
"Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" <henk@ripe.net> Sun, 07 December 2003 06:02 UTC
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From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" <henk@ripe.net>
To: STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN <emile.stephan@rd.francetelecom.com>
Cc: Matthew J Zekauskas <matt@internet2.edu>, Andy Bierman <abierman@cisco.com>, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, ippm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN wrote: > Dear All, > > The IPPM MIB is designed as the reporting interface for a set of points of measure colocated (an embedded SNMP agent) or distributed (an IPPM proxy). > > The workflow of the reporting is simple: > > test packet arrival > | > V > network metrics computation ----> ippmHistoryTable > owd,ploss,ipdv... > | > V > Aggregated metrics computation --> ippmHistoryTable > min,max,avgt,%... of owd,ploss,ipdv... > | > V > filtering ---------------------> ippmReportTable > > > The aggregation permits to produce results over well known period of > time (e.g.: every 5 minutes, per hour...). Reporting raw singletons have > a big limitation: If you increase the test packets rate you increase the > volume of information to report too. The aggregation permits to solve > this scalability issue: The volume of information to report does not > increase with the test packets rate. This is true. However: 1. People prefer different aggregation intervals, different numbers (average, median), for different applications. It is impossible to predict everything anybody is ever going to ask for, let alone standardize it. 2. For a single, one time, measurement, the ippmHistoryTable have a limited size. For continous measurements, ippmHistoryTAble can be implemented as a round robin, with the application above it responsible to read the buffer before data expires (or accept that data is expired). > The IPPM MIB stores only network measure results: > > test packet arrival > | > V > network metrics computation --> ippmHistoryTable > owd,ploss,ipdv... I'd go for this. Henk (Chair hat off) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal@ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That problem that we weren't having yesterday, is it better? (Big ISP NOC) _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
- [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-… Andy Bierman
- Re: [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-… Matthew J Zekauskas
- Re: [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-… Randy Presuhn
- RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting… STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN
- Re: [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-… Andy Bierman
- RE: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-repor… JEWITT Jessie / FTR&D / US
- RE: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-repor… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- RE: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-repor… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-… Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
- RE: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-repor… Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
- RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting… STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN
- RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-reporting… Andy Bierman
- Re: RE : [ippm] comments on draft-ietf-ippm-repor… Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)