Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR disclosures by unstructured email

["Bradner, Scott" <[e-mail]>]

the two cases that I have personal knowledge of settled before going to trial so no useful outcome

Scott

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 10:06 PM, John C Klensin <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> --On Monday, July 18, 2022 23:26 +0000 "Bradner, Scott"
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>> fwiw - I do not think the IETF should ever do that - but
>> multiple companies who were sued for  implementing IETF
>> standards raised the non-conformance to IETF process as part
>> of their defense
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> Indeed.  But that is two companies, either of whom are the IETF,
> suing each other.  And then it is, as you pointed out, up to the
> courts with the IETF not directly involved or enforcing
> anything.  Certainly when those defenses prevail --whether in
> terms of rendering IPR unenforceable or in other ways-- it
> should, if generally known, act as a deterrent to ignoring the
> rules.  That, of course, raises the question of whether the IETF
> should take measures to be sure that such cases and their
> outcomes are better publicized (unless the court orders us not
> to).  But my instinct, fwiw, says that the answer to that
> question is "no" and that we should, to the extent possible,
> stay uninvolved in those proceedings.
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>    john
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