Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR disclosures by unstructured email
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 19 July 2022 02:06 UTC
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:06:43 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR disclosures by unstructured email
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--On Monday, July 18, 2022 23:26 +0000 "Bradner, Scott" <sob@harvard.edu> wrote: > fwiw - I do not think the IETF should ever do that - but > multiple companies who were sued for implementing IETF > standards raised the non-conformance to IETF process as part > of their defense Indeed. But that is two companies, either of whom are the IETF, suing each other. And then it is, as you pointed out, up to the courts with the IETF not directly involved or enforcing anything. Certainly when those defenses prevail --whether in terms of rendering IPR unenforceable or in other ways-- it should, if generally known, act as a deterrent to ignoring the rules. That, of course, raises the question of whether the IETF should take measures to be sure that such cases and their outcomes are better publicized (unless the court orders us not to). But my instinct, fwiw, says that the answer to that question is "no" and that we should, to the extent possible, stay uninvolved in those proceedings. john
- ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR disclo… tom petch
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Stephan Wenger
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Lars Eggert
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Brian Carpenter
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Alan Clark
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Bradner, Scott
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… John C Klensin
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Bradner, Scott
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… John C Klensin
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Bradner, Scott
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… John C Klensin
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Carsten Bormann
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Bradner, Scott
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Scott Bradner
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Carsten Bormann
- Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR di… Scott Bradner
- Subject discipline (was Re: ipr-wg was Proposal t… Robert Sparks
- Re: unstructured email and IPR Alexandre Petrescu