Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR disclosures by unstructured email

Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com> Tue, 19 July 2022 16:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: ipr-wg was Proposal to cease accepting IPR disclosures by unstructured email
From: Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
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requiring disclosure of IPR that may cover is a broader brush than requiring disclosure of IPR that will cover

i.e., you have to disclose if you think the IPR might cover not only if you are sure that the IPR would cover

(your message seemed to assume the latter)

Scott
> On Jul 19, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
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> On 2022-07-19, at 12:30, Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com> wrote:
>> 
>> i.e., certain knowledge of impact is not required ( "MAY ultimately Cover")
> 
> Certainly, but that just decreases the percentage of cases where what I said is relevant.
> 
> (Not even sure that the “but” in this sentence is appropriate because I don’t know why you are saying this.)
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> Grüße, Carsten
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