RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security
"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com> Thu, 14 March 2002 19:15 UTC
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From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>
To: 'Sandy Harris' <sandy@storm.ca>, ipsec@lists.tislabs.com
Subject: RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:49:59 -0800
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>> I am not quite sure what was the point of your "10 year" memo, Obviously the writer is not familliar with USENet or Slashdot and does not know the vicarious thrill of reading a well written troll. > Compare this to the web, which is about 12 years old. If it had > developed equally slowly, we'd stiil be using Gopher and quite > a few well-known companies, products, job titles, etc. would not > exist. Deployment of the Web was much easier because it required only single ended adoption. It was possible to install a Web server without any administrative privs, it was possible to install a Web browser without any administrative privs. IPSEC is by necessity double ended adoption which is very much slower to deploy. Plus the hard issue for IPSEC was not the packet format, it was the keying issue which was in turn held up by the patent encumbrances. >> but ... Steve Kent. ... Is personally responsible for all the failures of the IETF, the IESG and the IAB. I have it on good authority that he was also personaly responsible for the West Palm Beach 'Butterfly Ballot', the design of the electoral voting machine chad and thus GWB making him personaly and directly responsible for all global events of any significance since the founding of the republic, possibly earlier... I personally disagree with the above statement as it would appear to somewhat overstate the role of Steve in geo-political affairs. As it would happen Steve and I appear to be sharing a black helicopter to the next meeting of the New World Order. Phill
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- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security RJ Atkinson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Harald Koch
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- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Brian Lloyd
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Dennis Beard
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Sandy Harris
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Joe Touch
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Paul Koning
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
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- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Derek Atkins
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security George Michaelson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Dan McDonald
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Alex Alten
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Michael Choung Shieh
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Alex Alten
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