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Re: [IPsec] replacing PSKs: CFRG and PAKE

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Tue, 11 December 2018 02:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPsec] replacing PSKs: CFRG and PAKE
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 2018, at 19:51, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> >>> Because I share Paul's view that the PSKs we care about are generally
> >>> identical in both directions
> >>
> >> I agree here.
> >>
> >>> , and this use is primarily about site-to-site
> >>> inter-company VPNs.   This is note for road-warrier accesss.
> >>
> >> But not here. weak group PSK's for roadwarriors is a thing :(
> >
> > yes, typo, "not for road-warrior"
>
> I understood. I disagree with the “not”. Road warriors using group psk is a
> thing, sadly.

But they aren't cross-domain, they can do EAP-foobar, and they could use a
certificate without a lot of hassle about what set of trust anchors.

If we stick to the site-to-site then I think we can do something rather
simple and quick, and our security considerations section will be much
simpler.

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