RE: Comments on Trunk Group ID and RE: [Iptel] getting groupconsensuson moving forward with our workitems

Gone thru 2806bis-09 one more time, global-number-digits and
local-number-digits are defined as:

global-number-digits = "+" 1*phonedigit
local-number-digits  = 1*phonedigit-hex
<snip>
phonedigit           = DIGIT / [ visual-separator ]
phonedigit-hex       = HEXDIG / "*" / "#" / [ visual-separator ]
visual-separator     = "-" / "." / "(" / ")"

So would this be valid: "tel:-;tgrp=foo"?

Thanks, Shan Lu

>-----Original Message-----
>From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org] 
>On Behalf Of Shan Lu
>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:09 AM
>To: 'list iptel'
>Subject: RE: Comments on Trunk Group ID and RE: [Iptel] 
>getting groupconsensuson moving forward with our workitems
>
>
>Dave,
>
>Based on 2806bis-09, tel:;tgrp=foo is not valid. I am on the 
>fence whether
>it ought to be.
>
>Thanks, Shan Lu
>
>>From draft-ietf-iptel-rfc2806bis-09:
>
>   telephone-uri        = "tel:" telephone-subscriber
>   telephone-subscriber = global-number / local-number
>   global-number        = global-number-digits *par
>   local-number         = local-number-digits *par context *par
>   <snip>
>   global-number-digits = "+" 1*phonedigit
>   local-number-digits  = 1*phonedigit-hex
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org] 
>>On Behalf Of David R Oran
>>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:05 AM
>>To: Shan Lu
>>Cc: 'list iptel'
>>Subject: Re: Comments on Trunk Group ID and RE: [Iptel] 
>>getting groupconsensus on moving forward with our workitems
>>
>>
>>Is tel:;tgrp=foo not a valid tel: url?
>>If not, it ought to be.
>>
>>On Nov 12, 2004, at 3:49 PM, Shan Lu wrote:
>>
>>> I support the plan to move forward with the trunk group draft. In  
>>> fact, my
>>> company intends to implement it.
>>>
>>> However, I do believe there exists a technical hole in the draft,  
>>> which I
>>> raised on the list before. That is, since "tgrp" is defined as a  
>>> tel-uri
>>> parameter, it can not exist on its own without the actual tel-uri  
>>> number. In
>>> the case of originating trunk group (ie. PSTN-to-IP 
>direction), the  
>>> calling
>>> number may be absent. The question is then how to express 
>>originating  
>>> trunk
>>> group.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Shan Lu
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Rosenberg
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:03 PM
>>>> To: list iptel
>>>> Subject: [Iptel] getting group consensus on moving forward
>>>> with our workitems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> At the iptel meeting today, there was consensus in the room on
>>>> plans for
>>>> moving forward with various drafts. I'd like to verify that
>>>> consensus by
>>>> asking the list if folks are OK proceeding with the following:
>>>>
>>>> * Proceed to wglc on draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np once a revision
>>>> appears in
>>>> the archives
>>>>
>>>> * Proceed to wglc on
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-grou
>>> p-02.txt
>>> immediately following the ietf
>>>
>>> * adopt
>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stastny-iptel-tel-enumdi 
>>> -00.txt
>>> as a work item of iptel
>>>
>>> * do not adopt
>>> 
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosen-iptel-dialstri
>ng-00.txt
>>> as a work item. The author will take it directly to IESG as an
>>> individual draft.
>>>
>>> * do not adopt the expired tel cpc draft
>>> 
>(http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-01.txt) as a
>>> work item. If folks have a problem that they believe is addressed by
>>> this work, please bring that forward in the next few weeks.
>>>
>>> * tgrep will go to IESG after a revision incorporating comments from
>>> Cullen and the pending comments from Jonathan
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jonathan R.
>>> -- 
>>> Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D.                   600 Lanidex Plaza
>>> Director, Service Provider VoIP Architecture   Parsippany, NJ  
>>> 07054-2711
>>> Cisco Systems
>>> jdrosen@cisco.com                              FAX:   (973) 952-5050
>>> http://www.jdrosen.net                         PHONE: (973) 952-5000
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>>David R. Oran
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>>Cisco Systems
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>>Acton, MA 01720 USA
>>Tel: +1 978 264 2048
>>Email: oran@cisco.com
>>
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