[IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for Adoption
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 29 May 2024 03:08 UTC
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Subject: [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for Adoption
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Strangely enough, I agree with all David's suggestions for improving RFC 4007 (which has other deficiencies that he doesn't mention). But I disagree that fixing RFC 4007 would obviate the need for the zone-ui draft. The two things are orthogonal. This draft is the easy part, and IMHO should be done first. Regards Brian Carpenter On 29-May-24 12:52, David Farmer wrote: > I do not support the adoption of this draft. In my opinion, it doesn't fundamentally solve the problem. It provides only slightly more guidance than RFC4007 by adding the option of treating the Zone Identifier as a completely separate input field instead of connecting it with an IPv6 literal using the "%" or other delimiters. While I agree this technique is implementable by many applications, including modern web browsers. Nevertheless, I prefer a different solution to the problem, which I think is more consistent with an unmodified IPv6 literal URI specification in RFC3986. > > I believe a better solution to the problem involves the "default" zone. First, the current definition of the "default" zone is confusing. It needs significant clarification and more details about how the "default" zone functions. Second, all implementations should be required to implement the "default" zone for at least the link-local unicast and link-local multicast scopes. > > Further, I would like to see a recommendation that the default zone should be associated with the interface that came online most recently for at least the link-local scope. This would allow a user to easily change the interface associated with the link-local default zone by simply bouncing the desired interface. > > Finally, since multicast DNS relies on the link-local multicast scope, clarifying the "default" zone behavior for the link-local multicast scope will also provide more consistent multicast DNS behavior when multiple link-local multicast scopes are present. > > Thanks > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 3:33 AM Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com <mailto:furry13@gmail.com>> wrote: > > This email starts an adoption call for the following document: > > Title : Entering IPv6 Zone Identifiers in User Interfaces > Authors : B. Carpenter, R. Hinden > Pages : 9 > Date : 2024-03-31 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui/> > > Please note that the draft in question is a continuation of the work > done in draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis which was adopted by this WG > previously. > > Substantive comments, statements of support for adopting this > document or objections to the adoption should be sent to the mailing > list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors. > . > This adoption call will end on June 12th 2024. > > Regards, > > Ole & Jen > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> > Administrative Requests: > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu <mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- [IPv6]draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for Adop… Jen Linkova
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Mark Smith
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Schinazi
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Mark Smith
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Martin J. Dürst
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Behcet Sarikaya
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Martin J. Dürst
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Schinazi
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Schinazi
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Nick Buraglio
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Schinazi
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui: Call for … Weiqiang Cheng