Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt]

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Sun, 19 November 2017 13:34 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:34:15 +0000
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Subject: Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt]
To: "Brian E. Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, 04:59 Brian E Carpenter, <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
wrote:

> However, from what I saw, most of it is layer 2 broadcast
> traffic, which is more of a burden for the infrastructure. We need to
> decide
> whether we care.
>

Let's not forget about battery life. According to the numbers in RFC 7772,
on a phone even just sending DHCPv4 packets every 2 minutes could reduce
battery life by ~8% compared to a completely idle device.

>