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RE: <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids> update to rfc2464bis

"Christian Huitema" <huitema@huitema.net> Fri, 13 January 2017 05:36 UTC

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From: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
To: 'Lorenzo Colitti' <lorenzo@google.com>, 'Bob Hinden' <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, 'Juan Carlos Zuniga' <j.c.zuniga@ieee.org>
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Subject: RE: <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids> update to rfc2464bis
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On Thursday, January 12, 2017 7:47 PM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:

>> Do you have a reference to a document that defines random IEEE mac addresses?
> 
> Not an IEEE reference, but we could certainly cite RFC 7844 section 2.1, which goes
> into the subject in detail. Christian might have a better reference. Christian?

RFC 7844 includes a couple of citations on past experience. There is also the presentation that I gave in Prague: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-intarea-5.pdf. Mathy Vanhoef wrote a description of MAC Address Randomization in Windows 10 here: https://www.mathyvanhoef.com/2016/03/how-mac-address-randomization-works-on.html. 

There is work in progress in IEEE 802. Juan Carlos is following it, and may have a good reference.

-- Christian Huitema

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