Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt
james woodyatt <jhw@google.com> Fri, 17 November 2017 18:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv4flag-00.txt
From: james woodyatt <jhw@google.com>
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:39:06 -0800
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On Nov 17, 2017, at 00:17, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: > > The flag is to tell the host to not use IPv4. Once the host see the Flag=1, it should stop sending IPv4. The draft is very confused about what the flag means. And both of the conflicting descriptions in the draft are in conflict with this statement. Here are the three conflicting positions (I’m wondering how many will emerge before this can be sent back to the April 1 queue). — "IPv4 is Not Available on this Router" — "A host that receives only RAs with the flag set to 1 should not attempt IPv4 operations, unless it subsequently receives at least one RA with the flag set to zero." — "A host that receives Flag=1 should stop sending IPv4" (to what routers? on which interfaces? until what condition arises?). Please send this draft back into the For Comedy Purposes Only category and leave the serious business of this topic to the SUNSET4 working group, which is actually chartered to deal with it. --james woodyatt <jhw@google.com>
- Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ip… Bob Hinden
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Fernando Gont
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Bob Hinden
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… David Farmer
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Simon Perreault
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Nick Hilliard
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… james woodyatt
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Bob Hinden
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… james woodyatt
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Bob Hinden
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Simon Hobson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Erik Kline
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Nick Hilliard
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Tim Chown
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Erik Kline
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Jen Linkova
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Fernando Gont
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Fernando Gont
- problem statement [was Re: New Version Notificati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Christian Huitema
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Simon Hobson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… David Farmer
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Simon Hobson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Simon Hobson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… David Farmer
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Michael Richardson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Jen Linkova
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Alejandro Acosta
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hinde… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Ole Troan
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… David Farmer
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Michael Richardson
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Erik Kline
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Fred Baker
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… David Farmer
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… David Farmer
- Re: problem statement [was Re: New Version Notifi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… james woodyatt
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-hinden-ipv… james woodyatt