Re: [dhcwg] Question to DHCPv6 Relay Implementors regarding draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements

Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Thu, 08 October 2020 01:25 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 12:24:45 +1100
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Question to DHCPv6 Relay Implementors regarding draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:25 PM <ianfarrer@gmx.com> wrote:
> We are currently finishing WGLC for this draft. It describes requirements for a 'DHCPv6 Delegating Relay' - this is a router functioning as the L3 edge and DHCPv6 relay (only) with prefix delegation. This is a common deployment scenario, but RFC3633/8415 only really describes PD using a Delegating Router - i.e the L3 edge also functions as a DHCPv6 server with no relay. When the relay and server functions are performed by separate devices a number of problems with how relays behave have
> been observed, so this document addresses them.
>
> During WGLC for this, Ole raised a comment related to one of the routing requirements:
>
> R-4:    If the relay has learned a route for a delegated prefix via a
>            given interface, and receives traffic on this interface with
>            a destination address within the delegated prefix (that is
>            not an on-link prefix for the relay), then it MUST be
>            dropped.  This is to prevent routing loops.  An ICMPv6 Type
>            1, Code 6 (Destination Unreachable, reject route to
>            destination) error message MAY be sent back to the client.
>            The ICMP policy SHOULD be configurable.
>
> The problem that this is trying to solve is:
>
> 3.5.  Forwarding Loops between Client and Relay

I might be missing smth but...
Let's say I have a relay and it's 'south' (client-facing) interface is
connected to a switch. The client AND second device (another router or
a host) are connected to the same segment.
The client gets a prefix, the relay 'learned' (or shall we call it
'install'?) the route for the delegated prefix pointing to its 'south'
interface with the client address as a next-hop.
What would happen if the *second* device sends traffic towards the
delegated prefix? As that device is usig the relay as its default
gateway, the traffic would be sent there.
If I read the draft correctly, instead of forwarding the traffic and
maybe sending the redirect, the relay is expected to drop it?

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SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry