Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.txt
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Mon, 06 July 2015 17:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.txt
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Hi, Kerry, On 07/06/2015 01:26 PM, Kerry Lynn wrote: > Could you please take a look at Mark's comment and rationale, and vice > your opinion? > > He essentially argues that we should remove the "MAY" in: > "It is RECOMMENDED by this document that future specifications do not > specify IPv6 address generation schemes that embed the underlying > link-layer address in the IID. Future specifications MAY use an IID > based on a node's link-layer address if design and engineering > considerations warrant." > > (his rationale is provided below). > > I'm fine with applying his suggested change, but would like to hear your > thoughts before applying any changes. > > As the lead author of > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6man-6lobac, I'm > strongly in favor of retaining the option to specify IIDs based on locally > assigned link-layer addresses, particularly for link-local addresses. FWIW, this has never been under question. That is, the question is regarding the wording, not about the intent. Based on past wg discussion and consensus, we all agree that there must be room to go against this advice if design/engineering tradeoffs warrant this. > The first sentence in the paragraph above could be interpreted as > recommending that authors of future proposals MUST NOT provide a > specification for forming IIDs from link-layer addresses. The MAY > in the following sentence makes it clear that the recommendation is > SHOULD NOT. Well... a "SHOULD NOT" is a "SHOULD NOT". IF somene can read a "SHOULD NOT" as a "MUST NOT", then we should refer them to RFC2119. I think the issue that MARK raises is more tricky, since the MAY itself might lead to some confusion. Thanks! Best regards, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
- I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.txt internet-drafts
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Liushucheng (Will)
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Samita Chakrabarti
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Tim Chown
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Kerry Lynn
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Kerry Lynn
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Alissa Cooper
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [6lo] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iid… Fernando Gont
- RE: [6lo] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iid… Gabriel Montenegro
- Re: [6lo] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iid… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Brian Haberman
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Ralph Droms
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Ralph Droms
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Philip Homburg
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [6lo] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iid… Jonathan Hui
- RE: [6lo] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iid… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [6lo] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iid… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Philip Homburg
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Philip Homburg
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Brian Haberman
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Philip Homburg
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Philip Homburg
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Alissa Cooper
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Ralph Droms
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Jonathan Hui
- RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Ralph Droms
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Kerry Lynn
- Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-04.t… Mark Smith