Re: [irtf-discuss] [arch-d] [Aid-workshop-pc] Why closed IAB workshops ? Re: Call for Papers: Workshop on Analyzing IETF Data (AID), 2021

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 5:08 PM Brad Biddle <brad@biddle.law> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:13 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
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>> I am still be interested to learn if/how IAB did vet its invitation only
>> workshop
>> rules with the IEF lawyer re. compliance with USA EAR rules.
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> Toerless and all -- one of the IETF's lawyers here. Without inviting lots
> of nuanced discussion of a complex legal topic on large public mailing
> lists, let me note that materials presented at "open conferences" are
> broadly exempted from the EARs, and the definition of open conference is
> reasonably broad -- e.g., it can include "a limitation on actual
> attendance, as long as attendees either are the first who have applied or
> are selected on the basis of relevant scientific or technical competence,
> experience, or responsibility," among other things.
>
> The regulatory language is frustratingly opaque, but please see 15 CFR
> 734.2 [1]
>

Typo in my text: 15 CFR 734.7 is the relevant regulation. The footnoted
link is correct.

> and a relevant BIS FAQ [2]. Also let me assure you that export control
> compliance is a key focus area for the legal team and we would definitely
> flag any concerns for the IAB leadership and other stakeholders.
>
> --Brad
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> [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/15/734.7
> [2]
> https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/documents/compliance-training/export-administration-regulations-training/1554-ear-definitions-faq/file
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>> Cheers
>>     Toerless
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>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 06:35:27PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>> > Hmm... can not remember i saw that being mentionined in invites. Do you
>> rmember
>> > an example one ?
>> >
>> > How does that work with USA EAR ? Or where participants already
>> excluded based on EAR ?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >     Toerless
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 04:29:40PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> > > The few workshops I have attended (four or five) were all under
>> Chatham House rules, to enable frank and open discussion among those
>> present.
>> >
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