Re: [Isis-wg] Request for WG adoption of draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00

Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> Wed, 04 June 2014 08:21 UTC

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Hi Stephane,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stephane.litkowski@orange.com [mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:42 PM
> To: Xuxiaohu; isis-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Cc: draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc@tools.ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Request for WG adoption of draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I completely agree this is orthogonal, but the solution for adding EL is stacked
> tunnels is unfortunately not as easy as for a single LSP.
> I just like to be sure that we would have a consensus on a solution for inserting
> the ELC/EL before worrying on encoding the capability. What would happen if
> we cannot have a consensus on the solution for the label insertion ? It just a

Since the ELC advertisement is orthogonal to the EL insertion solution, it doesn't matter whether the consensus on the best EL insertion solution can be reached or not. Furthermore, IMHO, since each option has its pros and cons, the final result may be "make your own choice according to your network capabilities and your applications". However, no matter whichever EL insertion option is enabled on the ingress LSR in practice, the ELC advertisement is a necessity. Don't you think so?

Best regards,
Xiaohu

> question of delaying a bit ... I don't think this is a big issue ... and may be you can
> push at your side also to have the solution progressing for the label insertion ...
> 
> Stephane
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Xuxiaohu [mailto:xuxiaohu@huawei.com] Envoyé : mercredi 4 juin 2014
> 04:16 À : LITKOWSKI Stephane SCE/IBNF; isis-chairs@tools.ietf.org Cc :
> draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc@tools.ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org Objet : RE: Request for
> WG adoption of draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00
> 
> Hi Stephane,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stephane.litkowski@orange.com
> > [mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:17 PM
> > To: Xuxiaohu; isis-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> > Cc: draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc@tools.ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: Request for WG adoption of draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > IMHO, before defining the capability, I would be more interrested on
> > seeing some progress on a solution for EL over SPRING. A draft exists
> > with multiple options, maybe we should wait for one option to have
> > consensus before worrying about ELC encoding (quite easy part of the EL for
> SPRING).
> 
> IMHO, the following rationale for the EL concept has never been changed no
> matter the EL mechanism is used for a single LSP or stacked LSPs: An ingress LSR
> cannot insert ELs for packets going into a given LSP unless the egress LSR of that
> LSP has indicated that it can process ELs on that LSP. SPRING is just an approach
> of constructing explicitly routed tunnels using stacked LSPs (see
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gredler-spring-mpls-06). Therefore, no matter
> option 1 (i.e., inserting a single EL at the bottom of the LSP stack), option 2(i.e.,
> inserting an EL at every LSP of the LSP stack), option 3 (i.e., re-uses the EL of the
> terminated LSP for the next inner LSP) or option 4 (i.e., inserting ELs at readable
> label stack depths) is used, the ELC advertisement is necessary. In other word,
> the ELC advertisement mechanism is orthogonal to the EL inserting options.
> 
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
> 
> > Stephane
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Xuxiaohu
> Envoyé :
> > samedi 31 mai 2014 10:05 À : isis-chairs@tools.ietf.org Cc :
> > draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc@tools.ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org Objet :
> > [Isis-wg] Request for WG adoption of draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00
> >
> > Hi WG co-chairs,
> >
> > This draft (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00)
> > describes how to advertise the MPLS Entropy Label Capability (ELC)
> > using IS-IS in SPRING networks. Since
> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions
> > -00) has been adopted as a WG draft, as co-authors of
> > draft-xu-isis-mpls-elc-00, we hope you could consider the WG adoption for
> this draft as well.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Xiaohu (on behalf of all-authors)
> >
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