Re: [ipwave] MAC Address minor textual issue
Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> Thu, 18 May 2017 15:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] MAC Address minor textual issue
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> On May 18, 2017, at 7:50 AM, John Kenney <jkenney@us.toyota-itc.com> wrote: > > I do not agree with the statement that "there are strong privacy concerns". I suggest changing "concerns" to "requirements". > > I think stating that there are strong concerns conveys a sense of this being a big unsolved problem. For the DSRC/ITS-G5 community this is not the case. Privacy protection, including careful avoidance of PII in messages, pseudonymous certificates, and frequent identifier randomization, has been designed into DSRC/ITS-G5 from day 1. Well, I for one am still mystified by how the solution maps to IP. DSRC can do all of this work, but if my IP addressing doesn’t change in synchrony, it seems like it all doesn’t help. And if the IP addresses do change in synchrony, you abort upper layer TCP connections. So I’m still concerned. Tony
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