Re: [ipwave] RSU minor textual issue

Le 30/05/2017 à 08:08, Dick Roy a écrit :
> And when a police car with an “OBU” parks along the side of the road
> and “becomes an RSU” by broadcasting warning messages to oncoming
> vehicles

So we could "a computer equipped with at least one IEEE 802.11 interface
operated in OCB mode, which is physically located in communications
range of vehicles but is typically not a vehicle device itself"

(remark "typically").

> while the officer(s) are out of the car perusing the scene, then
> what. Point is, OBUs and RSUs are not devices … they are roles that
> real devices can take on.

When we discuss handovers we need this RSU term because of being fixed.
  The handover nature is such a mobile device is 'handed
over' from one RSU to another, likely to be fixed.

But but.

Now I realize we moved the handover discussion out of this draft, so 
maybe the "RSU" term is not that important.  It no longer appears 
throughout the draft...

> You might want to look at ISO 21217 for definitions of all these
> things, or not.  It has been around for almost a decade however:^))))

Will have to check.

Maybe we need another term instead of RSU, that is just a computer 
running at least one interface in OCB mode, and that implements what 
this IPv6-over-OCB draft says.

Alex

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> Furthermore, tying the definition of these objects to a particular
> communication interface (IEEE802.11 in OCB mode) really makes no
> sense. You would be the only standards group to take such a stance,
> and frankly, the communication interface is out of scope for the IETF
> and I would recommend against it.
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> My two euro cents …
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> RR
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>  *From:*its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Whyte *Sent:* Monday, May 29, 2017 4:41 PM *To:* Alexandre Petrescu
> *Cc:* Russ Housley; its@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [ipwave] RSU minor
> textual issue
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> Hi Alex,
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> RSU: Road Side Unit.  A computer equipped with at least one IEEE
> 802.11 interface operated in OCB mode.  An RSU may be connected to
> the Internet, and may be equipped with additional wired or wireless
> network interfaces running IP.
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> This doesn't cover the difference between an RSU and an OBU :-)
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> Maybe "a computer equipped with at least one IEEE 802.11 interface
> operated in OCB mode, which is physically located in communications
> range of vehicles but is not a vehicle device itself".
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> Cheers,
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> William
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> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Alexandre Petrescu
> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
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> Le 18/05/2017 à 15:33, Russ Housley a écrit :
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> On May 18, 2017, at 5:39 AM, Alexandre Petrescu
> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com
> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>>> wrote:
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> OLD:
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> RSU: Road Side Unit. An IP router equipped with, or connected to, at
> least one interface that is 802.11 and that is an interface that
> operates in OCB mode.
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> A comment was made stating that an RSU is not a router, and that an
> RSU may be connected to a router via an interface, e.g. Ethernet, to
> access the infrastructure if required.
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> But I think that some Road Side Units are indeed IP routers and they
> access the infrastructure and the Internet.  This is an important
> point when using the IP protocol - be connected.
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> I think I keep that text that way at this time.
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> End issue.
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> Alex:
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> Some RSUs will be routers, but others will not.  For example, an RSU
> that sends messages to vehicles about foggy conditions does not need
> to be a router.  I think the definition should allow both cases.
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> Russ,
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> I propose the following new definition.  It allows both cases:
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> RSU: Road Side Unit.  A computer equipped with at least one IEEE
> 802.11 interface operated in OCB mode.  An RSU may be connected to
> the Internet, and may be equipped with additional wired or wireless
> network interfaces running IP.
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> Alex
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> Russ
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