Re: [its] 1-phrase vision (was: New draft on scenarios and requirements for IP in ITS)

Hi Alex,

Sorry for my late responding due to my travel.

Please see inline.

Regards,

Seil

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:05:59 +0200
  Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
> So what would be the 1-phrase vision of IP and ITS?
> 
> In the future all vehicles will be connected to the 
>Internet.
> 
> or maybe
> 
> In the future all vehicles will be connected among 
>themselves.
> 

Yes, but that should be presented at Introduction I think, 
if omitted.

"Vision" I mentioned needs to be somewhat specific.

> or otherwise
> 
> In the first phases small islands of vehicular networks 
>will be forming
> and as more and more islands join and grow a whole new 
>network will appear.
> 
> Other 1-phrase vision would one propose?

I have two suggestions.

First, we add sub-sections, presenting specific topics 
considering Georgios's comment like traffic road safety, 
traffic efficiency/management, etc.. in "Scenarios". Then, 
we describe each sub-section in detail, that must be 
"Vision" ITS BoF wants to do.

Second, current sub-section related to vehicle-to-x (3.1, 
3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5) should be composed as independent 
Section with "Vehicle communication style" (title name 
needs to be revised accordingly) because various vehicle 
coms. style can be considered to support even same 
scenario. Namely, vehicle coms. style does not subordinate 
to specific scenario all the time.

I hope this comment helps you.

> 
> Alex
> 
> Le 27/07/2012 12:24, Seil Jeon a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> My point was that if you intend to present "Scenarios" 
>>for
>> intelligent transport system, I believe the contents 
>>need to show
>> "Vision" when the ITS technologies we're trying to 
>>achieve are well
>> applied.
>>
>> Current scenarios somewhat seem to get lost focus in the 
>>perspective
>> of "Scenarios".
>>
>> First, we need to show the "Vision" obviously what we're 
>>achieving in
>> ITS. Of course, this job is always difficult :|
>>
>> However, if this vision is clear in our mind first, we 
>>would become
>> to know how other works should be done specifically I 
>>believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: its-bounces@ietf.org
>> [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru 
>>Petrescu Sent:
>> Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:46 PM To: Seil Jeon Cc: 
>>its@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [its] New draft on scenarios and 
>>requirements for IP in
>> ITS
>>
>> Seil,
>>
>> Thank you for the message.
>>
>> I agree mainly with your points.  I find it useful to 
>>the future
>> reader if the scenarios where grouped in classes: 
>>necessities of
>> vehicle communications, high bandwidth availability, and 
>>other
>> generica problems.
>>
>> This may also to separate the requirements which are 
>>more specific
>> to vehicular communications, rather than generic fixed
>> communications.
>>
>> Is this what you mean?
>>
>> Do you think a modification of the draft should be done?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Le 25/07/2012 18:14, Seil Jeon a écrit :
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding on Section 3 Scenarios, I would classify them 
>>>with
>>> following categories.
>>>
>>> Scenarios 1, 3 might be the necessities of vehicle 
>>>communications
>>>
>>> Scenarios 2 describes high wireless accesses 
>>>availability on
>>> current network environment
>>>
>>> Scenario 4 - it might be one of requirements.
>>>
>>> Scenario 5 - it sounds somewhat generic problem to me 
>>>where every
>>> node to have Internet connection is facing.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> My opinion is would we need to specify them focused on 
>>>necessities
>>> of vehicular communications?
>>>
>>> Those would be much better to understand requirements 
>>>followed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Seil
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: its-bounces@ietf.org
>>> [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru 
>>>Petrescu
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:05 PM To: its@ietf.org 
>>>Subject: [its]
>>> New draft on scenarios and requirements for IP in ITS
>>>
>>> Participants to ITS informal effort at IETF,
>>>
>>> Per our recent discussions, we submitted a new draft 
>>>about
>>> scenarios and requirements for IP in ITS:
>>>
>>> draft-petrescu-its-scenarios-reqs-01.txt
>>>
>>> I would like to request feedback about the scenarios and
>>> requirements described in this draft.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Alex and on behalf of co-authors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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