Re: [ipwave] 802.11p minor textual issue

Thanks.  For providing this quote.  I think it makes searching difficult for the reader, but we should follow IEEE-SA guidelines.

Russ

> On May 18, 2017, at 11:09 AM, John Kenney <jkenney@us.toyota-itc.com> wrote:
> 
> FYI, when the IEEE 1609 WG recently prepared a document that cited our standards, we were told by IEEE to do it this way:
> 
> The NPRM references IEEE standards that have been superseded by these more recently published IEEE standards: IEEE Std 802.11TM-2016, IEEE Std 1609.2 TM -2016, IEEE Std 1609.3 TM -2016, IEEE Std 1609.4 TM -2016, and IEEE Std 1609.12 TM -2016
> 
> Here is a quote from the IEEE-SA Standards Style Manual <https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/draft/styleman.pdf> (section 7):
> "IEEE designations are trademarks of the IEEE and shall be identified as trademarks (® or ™, as appropriate) at first citation of each designation in the frontmatter and in the body of the draft."
> 
> So, if the text quoted by Alex is the first citation in the ID, I believe it would be correct to include TM not only for the 11p amendment, but also for 802.11-2007 since it is a different publication.
> 
> Best Regards,
> John
> 
> 
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> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com>> wrote:
> 
>> On May 18, 2017, at 5:39 AM, Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> OLD:
>>> The link 802.11 OCB was specified in IEEE Std 802.11p(TM)-2010
>>> [ieee802.11p-2010] as an amendment to the 802.11 specifications
>> 
>> It was suggested that the "802.11 specifications" are in fact "IEEE Std
>> 802.11-2007".  As such the resolution is:
>> 
>> NEW:
>>> The link 802.11 OCB was specified in IEEE Std 802.11p(TM)-2010
>>> [ieee802.11p-2010] as an amendment to IEEE Std 802.11-2007
>> 
>> End issue.
> 
> Alex:
> 
> I do not believe that the "(TM)" should appear in the name.  I suggest IEEE Std 802.11p-2010.
> 
> Also, it might help people locate the specification if we tell people that OCB was first specified in IEEE Std 802.11p-2010 as an amendment to IEEE Std 802.11-2007, and then it was incorporated into the base standard in …
> 
> Russ
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