Re: [jose] way forward for two remaining drafts
"HAYASHI, Tatsuya" <lef.mutualauth@gmail.com> Thu, 16 July 2015 10:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [jose] way forward for two remaining drafts
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+1 I think it's good. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:49 PM, hideki nara <hdknr@ic-tact.co.jp> wrote: > +1 > --- > hideki > > 2015-07-13 2:32 GMT+09:00 Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com>: >> >> Sorry to chime in so late. I have been completely under water for sometime >> now. >> >> Like Phil, I do see that draft-jones-jose-jws-signing-input-options sort >> of thing can be very useful, though I may want to have slightly different >> way of encoding the things. Being able to do detached signature is quite >> attractive. >> >> Best, >> >> Nat >> >> 2015-07-10 2:37 GMT+09:00 Kathleen Moriarty >> <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> About >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-jose-jws-signing-input-options-00, >>> I’ll add that this addresses the requests make by Jim Schaad and Richard >>> Barnes in JOSE Issues #26 “Allow for signature payload to not be base64 >>> encoded” and #23 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/jose/trac/ticket/23 “Make >>> crypto independent of binary encoding (base64)”. >>> >>> >>> >>> About >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-jose-key-managed-json-web-signature-01, >>> I’ll add that this addresses the request made by Jim Schaad in JOSE Issue #2 >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/jose/trac/ticket/2 “No key management for >>> MAC”. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also, there’s a highly relevant discussion about key management for MACs >>> going on in the COSE working group. See the thread “[Cose] Key management >>> for MACs (was Re: Review of draft-schaad-cose-msg-01)” – especially >>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cose/aUehU6O7Ui8CXcGxy3TquZOxWH4 and >>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cose/ouOIdAOe2P-W8BjGLJ7BNvvRr10. >>> >>> >>> >>> One could take the view that our decision on the JOSE key management >>> draft should be informed by the related decision in COSE. Specifically, >>> that if COSE decides to support key management for MACs, the same reasoning >>> likely should apply to our decision on whether to define a standard >>> mechanism for supporting key management for MACs in JOSE. >>> >>> >>> >>> Key management is explicitly out-of-scope for COSE as stated in the >>> charter. The discussion referenced had this point at the close of that >>> discussion. >>> >>> I'm not seeing much support for these drafts moving forward in JOSE. I'm >>> also not seeing enough to justify standards track and AD sponsored. If you >>> think these are important to have move forward in the WG or as standards >>> track, please say so soon. They can still go forward through the >>> Independent submission process through the ISE. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Kathleen >>> >>> -- Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> From: jose [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Karen O'Donoghue >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:38 AM >>> To: jose@ietf.org >>> Subject: [jose] way forward for two remaining drafts >>> >>> >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> >>> >>> With the thumbprint draft progressing through the process, we have two >>> remaining individual drafts to decide what to do with. The options include: >>> 1) adopt as working group drafts; 2) ask for AD sponsorship of individual >>> drafts; or 3) recommend that they not be published. Please express your >>> thoughts on what we should do with these drafts. Jim, Kathleen, and I would >>> like to make a decision in the Prague timeframe, so please respond by 15 >>> July. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-jose-jws-signing-input-options-00.txt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-jose-key-managed-json-web-signature-01.txt >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jose mailing list >>> jose@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jose mailing list >>> jose@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nat Sakimura (=nat) >> Chairman, OpenID Foundation >> http://nat.sakimura.org/ >> @_nat_en >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jose mailing list >> jose@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >> > > > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose > -- HAYASHI, Tatsuya Lepidum Co. Ltd.
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