Re: [Json] Scope: Wire format or runtime format?

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Sat, 15 June 2013 15:27 UTC

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On Jun 13, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Norbert Lindenberg <ietf@lindenbergsoftware.com> wrote:

> In looking over older messages on this list, I found a message that made clear to me why we're having this endless discussion about Unicode surrogates - it's because we're not clear whether we're designing a wire format or a format that also for use at runtime:
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/json/current/msg00355.html
> 
> Some people are coming from the runtime point of view, especially ECMAScript, where it's accepted practice to use ill-formed UTF-16 or even non-text in strings. At least the ill-formed UTF-16 is legitimized by section 2.7 of the Unicode standard.
> 
> Other people are coming from the wire protocol point of view, where clean formats are expected, in particular well-formed Unicode code unit sequences according to section 3.9 of the Unicode standard.
> 
> So which one shall it be?

Why not both? RFC 4627 deals with both; why should the update change to restrict that?

--Paul Hoffman

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Re: [Json] Scope: Wire format or runtime format? Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
Re: [Json] Scope: Wire format or runtime format? John Cowan
Re: [Json] Scope: Wire format or runtime format? Tony Hansen
Re: [Json] Scope: Wire format or runtime format? Stefan Drees
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Re: [Json] Scope: Wire format or runtime format? Martin J. Dürst
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