Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf-03.txt
Martin Rex <martin.rex@sap.com> Mon, 23 May 2005 23:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf-03.txt
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Nicolas Williams wrote: > > On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:43:37AM +0200, Martin Rex wrote: > > As with a similar discussion on krb-ietf list how a KDC cert should > > be verified in PKINIT, we should not ignore the fact that the affected > > spec (here) is going to be normative for both, the gssapi mechanism > > implementor and the application gssapi caller, and those two > > will have an entirely different background and needs. > > > > We should add a reference to the document draft-eastlake-randomness2-10.txt > > that is sitting on the Editor's queue: > > With respect to what? The input to the PRF? You got me, I'm not following my own advice. This reference should be guidance for gssapi mechanism implementors that provide PRF output based on the cryptographic session key. It may not be necessary for gssapi mechanisms where the implementation details are public or even part of a public/published spec. But you should not underestimate the number of gssapi mechanisms that don't have a formal spec of any kind, there are plenty of them. GSS-API is primarily a spec for an API and only secondarily a framework for independent interoperable mechanism implementations based on common public spec. And in order to provide a useful standard for the application writers, the spec will have to provide some guidance on behaviour for proprietary gssapi mechanisms and a level of expectation for the application writers. -Martin _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten
- Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf-03.… Jeffrey Altman
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Jeffrey Altman
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- RE: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Blumenthal, Uri
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- RE: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Blumenthal, Uri
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Ken Raeburn
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Ken Raeburn
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- RE: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Blumenthal, Uri
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- RE: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Salowey, Joe
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- RE: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Blumenthal, Uri
- RE: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Martin Rex
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Sam Hartman
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Martin Rex
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
- Re: Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf… Nicolas Williams
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