Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Review of draft-sorce-krbwg-general-pac-02

"Cantor, Scott E." <cantor.2@osu.edu> Wed, 22 June 2011 01:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Review of draft-sorce-krbwg-general-pac-02
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On 6/21/11 7:22 PM, "Martin Rex" <mrex@sap.com> wrote:

>Cantor, Scott E. wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps somebody should simply define an ASN.1 encoding for SAML
>> assertions.
>
>Please DON'T!  In the end, everyone would have to implement
>both, making that part of the problem at least twice as bad,
>and one would have to constantly maintain/update a mappings spec.

Everyone is already forced to implement "both", the only question is
whether there's any commonality at the logical level.

"Both" isn't even accurate, since OAuth is reinventing the same stuff
already, with yet another encoding.

-- Scott

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