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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt> (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 13 October 2022 15:15 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt> (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 06:27:01PM +1100, Lloyd W wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 13 Oct 2022, at 10:54, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > 
> > IMHO web-mail can only provide end-to-end encryption if the web-server is part of one end-point
> 
> this is not end-to-end encryption, but (reusing terminology from elsewhere) edge-to-edge encryption.
> 
> only a subset of the path taken is encrypted.

How about i am running a web-mail server on a PC in my home that
friends & family can use across the internet to communicate with me ?

Of course that web-server uses TLS or equivalent (QUIC,...).

How about you give examples of what type of web-mail is or is not
e2eee in your opinion and why.

Cheers
    Toerless

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